ASFR Elements - Turn Offs
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ASFR Elements - Turn Offs
Okay, lets try this now for actual ASFR elements. Which don't you like?
Boy was it an effort to keep this to only 15 options...
Boy was it an effort to keep this to only 15 options...
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Never got damage, so voted for all 3 of those, plus the OTT Malfunction option. The others can be cute, I guess. Oh, and I'm asexual, so explicit sex is of no interest for me
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Im open to almost all kind of elements of ASFR so it doesn't bother me that much in terms of unappealing content. Either I just ignore it or go along with it.
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I like all of those, actually. The only things I'm not personally a fan of are wetware and transformation themes.
"If the time should ever come when what is now called science, thus familiarized to men, shall be ready to put on, as it were, a form of flesh and blood, the Poet will lend his divine spirit to aid the transfiguration, and will welcome the Being thus produced, as a dear and genuine inmate of the household of man."
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I kinda don't really like faceoffs to be honest, like it can work for me when done a little more realistically, but I'm not into the whole "faceless circuitboard" look - at best it's kinda silly and at worst I find it kinda creepy and de-personising (that's not an ethical judgement or anything, that's just how it affects me personally).
Also not into a lot of monotone, I really like regular human speech that's obviously scripted or inflected in a sorta "user-friendly" way, and vocal effects are cool, but the the staccato style "EVERY. WORD. LIKE. THIS." voice just grates and reminds me of daleks or something.
It's not on the list but I generally do not like any of the options above if they're done non-consensually to an obviously or nearly sentient robot. If it's played non-seriously or if there's no major consequences, I might be alright with it, but if not I find it pretty vile. Basically anything that seems mean-spirited or like..."edgy" is a big no.
Finally I actually sometimes get put off by a lack of sexual content, It's disappointing not to get nudity or even suggestiveness and it just makes the content feel dry to me.
Also not into a lot of monotone, I really like regular human speech that's obviously scripted or inflected in a sorta "user-friendly" way, and vocal effects are cool, but the the staccato style "EVERY. WORD. LIKE. THIS." voice just grates and reminds me of daleks or something.
It's not on the list but I generally do not like any of the options above if they're done non-consensually to an obviously or nearly sentient robot. If it's played non-seriously or if there's no major consequences, I might be alright with it, but if not I find it pretty vile. Basically anything that seems mean-spirited or like..."edgy" is a big no.
Finally I actually sometimes get put off by a lack of sexual content, It's disappointing not to get nudity or even suggestiveness and it just makes the content feel dry to me.
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I only voted for 3 of these.
monotone speech, OTT damage and complete destruction.
While many of the choices aren't my thing, they can work if handled in an interesting way.
Bad writing and bad film making are the ultimate turn offs
monotone speech, OTT damage and complete destruction.
While many of the choices aren't my thing, they can work if handled in an interesting way.
Bad writing and bad film making are the ultimate turn offs

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Any chrome/Sorayama styled designs (something you would see out of Kamen Rider or Super Sentai) don't appeal to me, but designs similar to EDI are fine with me. Like Toastdroid's opinion on faceoffs, seeing a circuitboard with eyeballs and a speaker just doesn't work with me, I prefer in a more "practical" way.
Also, the "zombie walk" when their arms just extends forward (or in L-shaped angle) the whole time are also turn-offs for me.
Lastly is complete destruction, mostly the cyborg-esque organs/brain spilling out. I don't mind damages, especially the over the top ones.
Also, the "zombie walk" when their arms just extends forward (or in L-shaped angle) the whole time are also turn-offs for me.
Lastly is complete destruction, mostly the cyborg-esque organs/brain spilling out. I don't mind damages, especially the over the top ones.
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Re: ASFR Elements - Turn Offs
Well there goes the neighborhood.Rob_The_Fixer wrote:Any chrome/Sorayama styled designs (something you would see out of Kamen Rider or Super Sentai) don't appeal to me ...

So you’re saying a metallic face that stretches while talking is OK, but not if it’s flesh-like. Got it!Rob_The_Fixer wrote:... but designs similar to EDI are fine with me.

Here’s a 16th option I’d add to the list ... magical nanobots (with individual batteries, processors, and propulsion) that replicate the body’s trillions of cells into metallic components (from a mystery source of material) and don’t dispose of the biological waste. I mean I LOVE TF fiction, but I also know it’s nearly impossible to make the stories believable.
And while not attempting to be controversial, how come female animal/bipedal hybrids (like cats omen) don’t have 8 breasts like cats?

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Re: ASFR Elements - Turn Offs
first, i don't really like to see a properly functioning robot without her face panel removed
and, when a sleeper discovers/realizes his/her true nature, i don't like to see them malfunction
and, when a sleeper discovers/realizes his/her true nature, i don't like to see them malfunction
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I don't like malfunctions and damage without fixing and complete destruction. Maybe it's because of my professional deformation. Sometimes, when I see a malfunctioning or damaged machine / device, I feel a physical discomfort, and no, I'm not joking or trying to sound pretentious. I remember watching a "funny" video about a lot of TVs falling from shelves in the shop... It was horrible >_<
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Unfair. None of these are turn offs
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This is probally very specific but I hate when a film/show has a human fall for a robot but then the moral of the media is that human relationships are better and then they abandon their robot friend/partner. It happens so many times, they tease me with a happy ending and then break my heart.
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My votes were for "non-human finish" (just not really my speed), and "over the top malfunctions/complete destruction". Not on the list but I'm not really into transformation either.
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I work in electrical construction.
My vote goes for over-the-top malfunctions, like electrical arcing, sparks, melting components, and definitely explosions.
I cringe, because first of all, it takes an EXTREME amount of voltage and amperage for there to be airborne blue/yellow arcs of such volume as seen/written in stories.
Realistically, a domestic or commercial humanoid robot will operate even its most power-hungry components at low voltages, to the point where the most arcing and sparking you'll ever see is tiny ones like ones to light up a gas stove, or transferring static when you get charged with static electricity.
Secondly, unless it's a very basement "DIY" built robot, most robots are going to be built with fail-safes in place to prevent overheating of any components, or logic errors causing a major crashout.
And you can guarantee NO sexbot company will ever fair well if their robots become known to fail and malfunction due to "orgasm too extreme, overloading CPU!" that's a major buzzkill for most people.
Only the asfr crowd will come close to liking that, but even then, it's dangerous and a stressful moodkiller for the user.
A sexual overload would have to be a role-played feature that doesn't lead to damage or harm to either party.
Those elements in stories always give me an eye-roll, but I get it, lol. It's selling you the idea that they're a robot prone to errors, and sometimes, destruction is COOL.
I think a realistic thing to worry about though is going to be lithium-based battery systems going through thermal runaway, which we have seen with EVs including cars, busses, e-bikes, and even the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 from years ago.
That's a big problem that has just been a roll of the dice under normal use, but also when the batteries get punctured in an accident. Again, any serious commercial robot company is going to take steps to protect the battery from fire, including building a suitable shroud, or having an eject feature or "escape to safety" protocol.
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I also voted for disliking overly metallic appearances, but I don't mind a robotic body with a human-like face, even if the face is discolored. I do mind if they are fully chromed-out with a Daft Punk/Haydee head, and I also do mind if it has a very human head, but the body of a boxy transformer or robocop. There needs to be clear design cues to replicate feminine beauty, in my opinion, (or male strength if it's a male robot).
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I would like to add one more option that I didn't see in the poll, and that's "Data Collection"
You know, years ago I just figured all tech companies out there would have our best interests at heart and build devices and software to make our lives better and always push the capabilities of technology for longevity, affordability, and convenience.
I know better now, and that nearly every company out there wants to collect and sell our data. It's a major deflator for me to know this is going to extend to real life sex bots.
They are going to collect our face, our body dimensions, our kinks, pillow talk conversations, secrets, eating and substance habits, work and life schedules, you name it, and they are going to be analyzed/sold to further sell us more stuff, and also be tracked and logged by government interests. Our domestic robots might even advertise to us new products/services from paid sponsors right in our own home, without the ability to opt out easily, they might always nudge us to take our robot to an "approved repair facility" for updates or massively marked-up repairs, charge us subscription fees instead of really OWNING our robot, or they might even report us because we got a little "too rough with the slapping last night" and have been reported to the authorities, to friends/family/strangers on social media (it was in the terms of service that we agreed to) and also "recommended you take a corrective course on domestic abuse of a partner and equal rights." or some other nonsense that makes me feel less safe with my robotic partner.
All this makes me want to build my own robot that's very privacy-focused where nothing you ever tell it or do with it leaves your home unless you choose to share. Jailbreaking existing commercial units would be a high likelihood as well, for the sake of being able to add more customizability and de-bloating your robot, and purging them from spyware. It will for sure become illegal in some way, using safety as the excuse, but I'm hoping there will always be a community of tinkerers and freedom-lovers that choose to fight for individuals owning their tech instead of being owned BY tech.
My vote goes for over-the-top malfunctions, like electrical arcing, sparks, melting components, and definitely explosions.
I cringe, because first of all, it takes an EXTREME amount of voltage and amperage for there to be airborne blue/yellow arcs of such volume as seen/written in stories.
Realistically, a domestic or commercial humanoid robot will operate even its most power-hungry components at low voltages, to the point where the most arcing and sparking you'll ever see is tiny ones like ones to light up a gas stove, or transferring static when you get charged with static electricity.
Secondly, unless it's a very basement "DIY" built robot, most robots are going to be built with fail-safes in place to prevent overheating of any components, or logic errors causing a major crashout.
And you can guarantee NO sexbot company will ever fair well if their robots become known to fail and malfunction due to "orgasm too extreme, overloading CPU!" that's a major buzzkill for most people.
Only the asfr crowd will come close to liking that, but even then, it's dangerous and a stressful moodkiller for the user.
A sexual overload would have to be a role-played feature that doesn't lead to damage or harm to either party.
Those elements in stories always give me an eye-roll, but I get it, lol. It's selling you the idea that they're a robot prone to errors, and sometimes, destruction is COOL.
I think a realistic thing to worry about though is going to be lithium-based battery systems going through thermal runaway, which we have seen with EVs including cars, busses, e-bikes, and even the Samsung Galaxy Note 7 from years ago.
That's a big problem that has just been a roll of the dice under normal use, but also when the batteries get punctured in an accident. Again, any serious commercial robot company is going to take steps to protect the battery from fire, including building a suitable shroud, or having an eject feature or "escape to safety" protocol.
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I also voted for disliking overly metallic appearances, but I don't mind a robotic body with a human-like face, even if the face is discolored. I do mind if they are fully chromed-out with a Daft Punk/Haydee head, and I also do mind if it has a very human head, but the body of a boxy transformer or robocop. There needs to be clear design cues to replicate feminine beauty, in my opinion, (or male strength if it's a male robot).
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I would like to add one more option that I didn't see in the poll, and that's "Data Collection"

You know, years ago I just figured all tech companies out there would have our best interests at heart and build devices and software to make our lives better and always push the capabilities of technology for longevity, affordability, and convenience.
I know better now, and that nearly every company out there wants to collect and sell our data. It's a major deflator for me to know this is going to extend to real life sex bots.
They are going to collect our face, our body dimensions, our kinks, pillow talk conversations, secrets, eating and substance habits, work and life schedules, you name it, and they are going to be analyzed/sold to further sell us more stuff, and also be tracked and logged by government interests. Our domestic robots might even advertise to us new products/services from paid sponsors right in our own home, without the ability to opt out easily, they might always nudge us to take our robot to an "approved repair facility" for updates or massively marked-up repairs, charge us subscription fees instead of really OWNING our robot, or they might even report us because we got a little "too rough with the slapping last night" and have been reported to the authorities, to friends/family/strangers on social media (it was in the terms of service that we agreed to) and also "recommended you take a corrective course on domestic abuse of a partner and equal rights." or some other nonsense that makes me feel less safe with my robotic partner.
All this makes me want to build my own robot that's very privacy-focused where nothing you ever tell it or do with it leaves your home unless you choose to share. Jailbreaking existing commercial units would be a high likelihood as well, for the sake of being able to add more customizability and de-bloating your robot, and purging them from spyware. It will for sure become illegal in some way, using safety as the excuse, but I'm hoping there will always be a community of tinkerers and freedom-lovers that choose to fight for individuals owning their tech instead of being owned BY tech.
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Hi there!
I voted for "Face-off", "Obviously Robotic Appearance", "Non-human-finish", "Monotone robot speech", "OTT" and "Complete Destruction".
I tried to approach this from the users and from the technical perspective, which in the end are my very own perspectives, of course.
It is about human-like bots, no matter what sex or general purpose for, right? OK, human-like machines.
Face-off: I can see a technical point somewhere but I found it spooky. Especially with this eye-balls which I think are technically useless, but cybernetic / robotic engineers may correct me.
Robotic Appearance: That depends a bit. I have no problems with seams, cheaper models may have them. And if there is a panel, well then there may be a seam. But glowing eyes? Cat's eyes can glow. But we can realize the feature behind this otherwise.
Non-Human-Finish: I made the effort to build something human-like and then just made it look obviously non-human?
Similar is for robot speech. Nowadays all voices, robotic or natural, are created all the same way. So why use a robotic voice?
OTT and complete destruction: I am not sure where the difference is but... For what reason would anyone build bots that can explode - aside terrorist and/or military uses. You are sitting there with your secretary bot which then has malfunction for whatever reason and this thing just go boom and blows up the floor? Hopefully the TÜV will not approve that..
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I voted for "Face-off", "Obviously Robotic Appearance", "Non-human-finish", "Monotone robot speech", "OTT" and "Complete Destruction".
I tried to approach this from the users and from the technical perspective, which in the end are my very own perspectives, of course.
It is about human-like bots, no matter what sex or general purpose for, right? OK, human-like machines.
Face-off: I can see a technical point somewhere but I found it spooky. Especially with this eye-balls which I think are technically useless, but cybernetic / robotic engineers may correct me.
Robotic Appearance: That depends a bit. I have no problems with seams, cheaper models may have them. And if there is a panel, well then there may be a seam. But glowing eyes? Cat's eyes can glow. But we can realize the feature behind this otherwise.
Non-Human-Finish: I made the effort to build something human-like and then just made it look obviously non-human?
Similar is for robot speech. Nowadays all voices, robotic or natural, are created all the same way. So why use a robotic voice?
OTT and complete destruction: I am not sure where the difference is but... For what reason would anyone build bots that can explode - aside terrorist and/or military uses. You are sitting there with your secretary bot which then has malfunction for whatever reason and this thing just go boom and blows up the floor? Hopefully the TÜV will not approve that..
With kind regards
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Re: ASFR Elements - Turn Offs
I don't really find any of these to be turn offs, but I will say most are in the realm of fantasy. I love Fectionesque malfunctions, but in real life when machines don't work I make it my goal to fix them and get annoyed when it takes more than one attempt.
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