The Sincerest Form of Imitation (not a story)

[DukeNukem 2417]

....so. One of my earliest works to be posted here was dug up, put through a parser and done as motion video.

Haven't seen the video yet. Can't exactly say I'm enthused about it.

I'm not bothered by the lack of a PM asking if I was okay with this. What bothers me is that the scene chosen was meant to convey a sense of dread, a feeling that the main character was in danger, and was instead recreated for what I can only assume was a feeling of titillation. Never mind that the villain of the piece shows up again in later works, explicitly stated to be a spree murderer. That one bit was "adapted" to motion video with zero context behind it.

David Lynch never liked explaining the meaning of anything he made. Apparently, I don't get that luxury.

The damage to the scrapped 'bot in that bit was set dressing. Meant to show off that the gynoid was, in fact, a gynoid and that she'd been dispatched by the aforementioned villain of the piece. The wider truth of the matter was that said villain was targeting the main character, had done this to multiple 'bots before and was planning on adding the protagonist of the piece to his body count. I've never pitched myself as a strictly ASFR writer...or more to the point, the "SF" in my work tends to be less "sex fetish" and more "science fiction". If people find some of what I write titillating, that's fine by me. But taking one scene out of context and adapting it alongside pieces from other, explicitly ASFR work...it just rubs me the wrong way.

To make a long story short: I have no idea why that scene from that story was picked, I'm not particularly thrilled about it, and no, I don't want a PM apology or anything. What I DO want, or at least what I'd greatly appreciate, is the removal of the video versions of it from the FTP server. I'm also using this post to issue a blanket ban on AI motion video "adaptations" of ANY of my work.

If anyone does want to collaborate, via writing or music or anything of the sort, drop me a line via the usual method. As long as it's not about turning my writing into yet more A.I.-generated slop.

[ProchazkaJBG]

How is this kind of thing any different from manips? I never hear a peep about "asking the original creator permission to use their work", and that involves REAL PEOPLE

How is that OK but the AI stuff isn't? (not talking about FBC rules, asking a general question)

[Chevy Monza]

[quote="DukeNukem 2417" post_id=108601 time=1750105713 user_id=3413]
....so. One of my earliest works to be posted here was dug up, put through a parser and done as motion video.

Haven't seen the video yet. Can't exactly say I'm enthused about it.

I'm not bothered by the lack of a PM asking if I was okay with this. What bothers me is that the scene chosen was meant to convey a sense of dread, a feeling that the main character was in danger, and was instead recreated for what I can only assume was a feeling of titillation. Never mind that the villain of the piece shows up again in later works, explicitly stated to be a spree murderer. That one bit was "adapted" to motion video with zero context behind it.

David Lynch never liked explaining the meaning of anything he made. Apparently, I don't get that luxury.

The damage to the scrapped 'bot in that bit was set dressing. Meant to show off that the gynoid was, in fact, a gynoid and that she'd been dispatched by the aforementioned villain of the piece. The wider truth of the matter was that said villain was targeting the main character, had done this to multiple 'bots before and was planning on adding the protagonist of the piece to his body count. I've never pitched myself as a strictly ASFR writer...or more to the point, the "SF" in my work tends to be less "sex fetish" and more "science fiction". If people find some of what I write titillating, that's fine by me. But taking one scene out of context and adapting it alongside pieces from other, explicitly ASFR work...it just rubs me the wrong way.

To make a long story short: I have no idea why that scene from that story was picked, I'm not particularly thrilled about it, and no, I don't want a PM apology or anything. What I DO want, or at least what I'd greatly appreciate, is the removal of the video versions of it from the FTP server. I'm also using this post to issue a blanket ban on AI motion video "adaptations" of ANY of my work.

If anyone does want to collaborate, via writing or music or anything of the sort, drop me a line via the usual method. As long as it's not about turning my writing into yet more A.I.-generated slop.
[/quote]

Being that pedantic assholeness is all the rage here, shouldn't this have been posted somewhere else, other then stories?

/\/\()|\|z@

[The Liar]

How is this kind of thing any different from manips? I never hear a peep about "asking the original creator permission to use their work", and that involves REAL PEOPLE

How is that OK but the AI stuff isn't? (not talking about FBC rules, asking a general question)

In truth, that should also not be okay; but that's been prevalent since the 90's, so it got normalized.

[ProchazkaJBG]

How is this kind of thing any different from manips? I never hear a peep about "asking the original creator permission to use their work", and that involves REAL PEOPLE

How is that OK but the AI stuff isn't? (not talking about FBC rules, asking a general question)

In truth, that should also not be okay; but that's been prevalent since the 90's, so it got normalized.

I just think the hypocrisy from some people on this site is hilarious

[DukeNukem 2417]

Photo manipulations were made using pre-existing photos and adding bits from other pre-existing photos. Thing is, PEOPLE were and are the ones who do the manipulating. And the photos were OF ACTUAL PEOPLE, and the bits added were ACTUAL BITS OF ACTUAL ELECTRONICS. There was no regurgitation from LLMs or whatever. PEOPLE contributed to all of the facets of photo manipulations. It's like when two artists collaborate to work on a song; David Bowie and the Pet Shop Boys actually interacted and worked together on the "Hallo Spaceboy" remix, they didn't just throw their vocals into an A.I. blender and have it excrete the desired end result. They worked together. PEOPLE worked together.

Also, I think a lot of people missed the point of my screed. The scene "borrowed" was meant to be played for horror, it was "adapted" for an entirely different purpose. I was thinking we should focus on THAT, instead of throwing out terms like "pedantic assholeishness" and the like.

[dubhdanaidh]

With regard to manips it never really occurred to me that it could be problematic until OnlyFans et al. in theory allowed you to easily chat with content creators. I've had a few really ask about the community, but when manips come up it can be interesting. Some have been less than pleased that manips of them exist. Others don't care.

[TheShoveller]

How is this kind of thing any different from manips? I never hear a peep about "asking the original creator permission to use their work", and that involves REAL PEOPLE

How is that OK but the AI stuff isn't? (not talking about FBC rules, asking a general question)

While there are some exceptions to photomanips, the main difference between a manip done by a person and a video created by an AI is that the snippet of story you feed to the AI is stored indefinitely in its database and used to create whatever else is asked of that AI - that person's writing style, vocabulary usage, etc. is stored and reused without the original author's permission or credit, which is exactly what one of the big legal issues the guys who run the AI stuff are facing right now.