Damage, Dismantling, and other D Words.

Saya · Post by **Saya** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 8:07 am

Hello board!

So, for starters, let me get out of the way my appreciation for you guys and your positive reception to my stories! I'm extremely thrilled by this. This has been a great place to practice my skills as a writer and get constructive feedback. You haven't been patting my back, nor have you been accentuating the negative like wanna' be Nostalgia Critics. So, big, huge mega thanks to you guys!

So, what I want to ask you guys about concerns something that I enjoy that I have discovered others do not as much. Now, this is by no means a criticism of people on either side of the issue; what we deal in is (at the moment anyway) highly fictional, and what appeals to one person won't appeal to another and vice versa. So I'd never consider this a problem, per se. Just what is this problem? Well...

The truth is, I love the idea of a fembot that acts less like a fembot and more like a normal woman. Looks aren't all that relevant to me--a fembot can look like one of the lovely women in BA's stories or a fembot that looks more like Courtney Gears or a BD-3000. I generally love the idea of a fembot that isn't the typical 'beep, boop, how can I serve you Master' type, one who might confess to be a fan of the latest music, have a job, and generally act like a real person.

Despite this, I find myself under the conflict that I also greatly enjoy some pretty violent kinks regarding these fembots, ranging from malfunctions to dismantling, to complete reprogramming, damage and even destruction if the mood takes me. I love repair and maintainence scenes as well, but I suppose that my whole take on the fetish could be seen as "exposure of the fake qualities" or "loss of identity". I love it when that realistic woman suddenly has a bundle of wires pulled out, or ends up as a collection of dismantled parts on a table. It should be noted, however, that I do not enjoy suffering. Nor do I enjoy my characters being upset. The worst I like to have my characters react with is maybe surprise or anger, but I don't get off on 'actual' suffering.

So that brings me to my point, if you have been reading this so far. Namely, I approach the craft of writing a bit like I would a business. I can write what I want, and I get to do that through roleplay. And there are some stories I REALLY, REALLY want to write with these themes (and I have, such as in Sammy's Party). But at the end of the day, I write to my audience. There have been people in the past who have stated to me that these themes make them feel uncomfortable, which is fine, and if the majority of people here feel that way, I don't really see a point in writing a story with any such themes to it if the overwhelming majority won't like it.

I want to have an idea as to where you guys sit on this. So, I ask you: what would you want to see? Would you like to see me write such themes and such characters in these themes? Alternatively, do you think I should just write whatever I like and see where the chips fall?

TheSpotConlon · Post by **TheSpotConlon** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:17 am

You write three things better than most anyone: independent, somewhat standoffish, and driven fembots; humorous but still serious peril; and destruction and dismantling of said fembots. Write what you're good at and your audience will come to you. I've said for years that you're a damn good writer, and maybe you're better than what the board deserves. But keep writing what you're very good at and what you enjoy, and your audience will come to you.

Chise · Post by **Chise** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:55 am

I'm more of a lurker of the board... but... I have to say that I do like your stories, and the themes you're talking about - dismantling, reprogramming, loss of identity, even destruction things I like as well.

My RP partner complains about always having to put me back together again! *^^*

Keep at it Saya!

33cl33 · Post by **33cl33** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 10:39 am

I'm with you, Saya - pretty much everything you said is how I feel about fembot fiction. Damage, repair, disassembly, etc. always seems to be the best way to pull off a reveal, or to sell the reality of her being artificial.

Even if, in reality, those scenarios would be really problematic.

dale coba · Post by **dale coba** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 11:31 am

D is for disregard the dainty detractors.

Don't stop, Saya. Don't listen to those who would confuse reality with fantasy. As you dismantle the idea of the fake woman, you reveal her glorious qualities. What against a woman would be humiliation, damage and degradation are in fact a celebration of pleasure, and you are the hostess lustful fembot-lovers all deserve to have present the gala.

I know you mean no cruelty. Turn to Tumblr, and quickly you will find authors who want to dominate, but have no conception of their power without cruelty, and hatred, too. I don't think you could write like those childlike, misshapen and pathetic men if you tried. Please reject the programming of others, suggesting that female robots be treated with the respect and rights all female humans have respected. They project their own misplaced, gender-political insecurities when they defend fictional fembots from you.

Dare to be unrestrained, unashamed and merciless - for what good is mercy when applied to objects? You are not destroying a person, or the idea of sexual womanhood, or of an individual worthy person; but rather disassembling her for a fine-grained study and appreciation.

Be a cyborg feminist. You create a being, you define the rules and violate the traditional, limiting norms. Embrace the critical analysis of Donna Haraway, and become a firebird - a new, unique and shockingly powerfully vision of Saya.

- Dale Coba

Trace Venom · Post by **Trace Venom** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 1:20 pm

I have to say, I feel really lucky that someone with your writing skills is into the same sort of specific technosexual kinks I am into. So, in that regard, PLEASE write about it to your hearts content. You're my kind of scum

That being said, It wouldn't be a bad thing if you put a warning label on your stories, from now on, just so board members who are not into those themes can skip the story thread altogether.

Keep on rocking!

--NightBattery-- · Post by **--NightBattery--** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 3:50 pm

D is for ditto.
what Dale and venom said.

Do it for science!.

{A silly cartoon would be here if i had a juicy GPU.}

liliwinnt6 · Post by **liliwinnt6** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:53 pm

In my opinion, I treat sentient ones as human, others as appliance.

liliwinnt6 · Post by **liliwinnt6** » Thu Mar 05, 2015 9:54 pm

By the way, I don't feel like transforming a human into a robot, a little bit dislike.

darkbutflashy · Post by **darkbutflashy** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:03 am

Wow, I agree with Dale. *marks day in calendar*

If violence is a problem, why use a robot/cyborg character at all? It's her special trait "by birth" that she can take a lot of physical damage (more than anyone else could take) and may not even have pyschological problems because all what she is can be backed up and restored. A good story has to play with this special trait of her. A Must.

If you do it differently, you'll end up tweaking Homer's SF film script only by replacing the sidekick being a "talking pie".
(Okay, serious money lies down this way.)

A last note, Art should disturb the comfortable and comfort the disturbed. Proceed.

LongTimeLurker · Post by **LongTimeLurker** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 8:45 am

As you noted (and has been repeated), we're dealing with fiction and fetishes. There's no need to alter the stories you want to tell just because of a difference in kink (which is all I see any concerns over the 'd-words' as).

Now then - more stories, please

dale coba · Post by **dale coba** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 9:38 am

Dark chocolate isn't evil - it's just more concentrated.

When I was young, I enjoyed eating baker's chocolate.
There are no sugar calories, and you don't eat fast or very much.

Did liking that kind of chocolate make me evil? No, my desire to capture sexy women and convert them through technology into my Stepford-slavish robots is what made me evil; but that was a fantasy desire, and I am only fantasy-evil.

- Dale Coba

Saya · Post by **Saya** » Fri Mar 06, 2015 4:51 pm

Thank you everyone for your feedback! It is good to know where the community stands on this, and I think that asking the audience I am entertaining what they want is a good way to not only gauge what they want, obviously, but a nice way to get some ideas.

I intend to keep writing! However, college is kicking into high gear. I might not be writing as quickly as I would like, but anything worth doing is worth doing well--and carefully. Which means I want to devote as much time as I can to working on good ideas!

Thank you, again, for the encouraging words and helpful opinions!

Deep Blue · Post by **Deep Blue** » Tue Jun 23, 2015 2:00 pm

I agree with OP's point, and one more thing is the parts and be exchanged among the fembots. One fembot's limbs can be come from other bot.

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