Hi, Hypnogold! Glad to have you here!
I'm very happy to hear that you are interested in catering to our fetish. We need more like you!
You ask for advice from us. I'd be glad to get into great detail with you, but seeing as you have a finite deadline with this trial run, please don't be offended if I simply re-transmit a previous message. This is an email that I sent to a hypno guy who was wondering about our fetish a few years back... just before he became one of the top-rated studios on Clips4Sale, if I recall correctly. I would update this if I had time, but I think it captures sort of the essence (for me, at least). Please check it out, but understand that we have no doctrine, and no two of us agree 100%. This is just me. But, again, the email below was part of the genesis of a very successful Clips4Sale studio enterprise.
Thanks again for your interest, and you can easily check my profile for my email address if you want. I'd be happy to help in any way I can.
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This friendly email is just to give you a couple of more ideas as to where you could take your shoots, if you so choose. At the very end, I have a semi-concrete proposal for a shoot, or at least a new concept for you, and if you feel like pursuing it, give me the word and I will go into in exacting detail as to how it might be done. Before that, however, I have a few words by way of introduction, and then some general guidelines I think the robot-fetishism community stands by, for your information. Please be gracious and read on
So I’m one of the “robot” guys. I’ve really liked some of the stuff you’ve some up with, especially recently. I’m a contributing member of the fembotcentral.com message board of which you are already aware and, although the interests there are very diverse — as with any online community of 1,000+ members — my material has been pretty well received. Definitely check some of it out if it helps you get a better idea of the barometer. I’m “wjbaines
“Why I think you should actually read this whole email.":
But the bottom line is that this has the potential to be a GOLDMINE for you if you decide to run with it, because people (like me, for example) WILL BUY your clips, for sure. The community is STARVING for independent content, since pretty much everything else at clips4sale (for example) has to do with guys getting stepped on, women blowing cigarette smoke into the camera, and other assorted bullshit. This robot thing is a virtually untapped niche! At fembotcentral, you are already on the radar screen. Your clips keep getting better and better and the community’s interests have been piqued. I hope my ideas in this email earn you money.
“Brief preamble before I get to the ideas”
I don’t know squat about hypnosis. I’m skeptical, because I’d have to think that the Army and Russians would have been all over it for decades by now if it were real. But so what? Maybe they are and they just don’t tell us! Probably, it’s a lot more complicated. Also, I don’t know if this is just a job for you or if you have some professional sensibilities and respect for what you do as a cultural practice, as art, or whatever, and what that balance is for you. That doesn’t matter to me either — RESPECT either way, to be sure. If you “compromise” with robot-fetishism, you’ll definitely make money off of us. I don’t know if you’ll simultaneously be driving away your existing hypno-fetishist base by catering to us more. That’s a business or artistic decision for you (I don’t know which or to what degree, of course). So, my preamble finished, here are the kinds of things I (and by extension, a large part of the robot-fetishist community) would like to see.
The most important thing for most of the people on fembotcentral is MALFUNCTIONS. Basically: otherwise, what’s the point? This is why many there became disenchanted or frustrated and stopped buying your earlier “robot” clips. The more malfunctions the better. And let her keep going (malfunctioning) for a while instead of “rebooting” or whatever after a couple of seconds. Those couple of seconds are the whole reason we buy the clips in the first place!!! I can’t emphasize that point enough, and that’s the virtually 100% consensus at fembotcentral. Plus, it adds to the length of the clips too, as an added bonus for you (i.e. more $ for you).
Here are some suggestions for these malfunctions (in no particular order, sorry):
- Some kind of calibration problem as far as depth-perception goes, causing her to bump (especially repeatedly) into walls/furniture/you, etc. That “Toy Kitty” clip was (inadvertently?) great for this and comes immediately to mind. Maybe difficulty picking up objects in the same vein: missing an object and then wondering it's not in her hand, etc. This needn't be some dumb, overly mechanical-looking thing. And maybe, as a result of messed-up optics/depth perception, she somehow manages to get wet. Spills a glass of water on herself, for example. You can take it from there. longish pauses between questions or commands and her response (while she's 'computing'); subtle jerky motions, especially of the head, laterally, for some reason.
Logic traps (usually a favorite). Your Karina clip was a good start. Pity she turned herself off so quickly!
Another real plus would be if the girl realized that she was malfunctioning. She might say or stutter things like "I think I'm - I think - I think - I think I'm mal - I think I'm malfunctioning!" And perhaps a kind of plaintive: "What's wrong with me"? or "Fix me!"
Forget any ear/bellybutton/chin/etc. “buttons.” Those are distractions for us, pretty much universally. The pen on the back thing — if that works for you — works for us. You don’t seem to use any props, and props can also definitely backfire and become a distraction if done poorly. Still, you might consider taping, for example, a calculator to a girl’s back or something. It’s not my bag (again we’re a diverse group), but I don’t think that would be poorly received.
Another hint: It’s nothing to do with the “Yes Master” BDSM thing. There’s no submission because it/she’s just a device in the first place. “Master” is superfluous — it’s a given. So you can bin that if you want.
Here are some other suggestions I’ve gleaned for you directly from the fembotcentral message board:
One contributor (not me) at fembotcentral said this: “I think a lot of us would also like the blank stare with a smile, like a flight attendant or Stepford Wife type thing. Which leads to just getting the hypnotized girls to act like Stepford Wives, as long as they've heard of the film, and know there's some stuttering and twitching involved, it could be a great alternative to the standard robo-voice arms at 90 degrees stereotype.”
The same contributor also said: “Another game could be that the girl is a very realistic android, but she becomes convinced that she can hear her own motors whirring whenever she moves if it's really quiet. At first she will stop and just try moving one joint at a time (in effect doing robotic motion) just to try to hear the "whirring". She might even try to get other people to notice the "sound" by standing still and only moving one joint at a time "Hey, listen to my elbow!”
Also: “Getting them to stutter or repeat words sometimes (without the typical stressed-out voice of a stuttering person) would be very robotic. Or just repeat all short words 3 times, " a..a..a.." or "the...the...the..." whenever they come up in the sentence would be an easy little instruction, maybe. This changes " I can't move my arm" to "I..I..I.. can't move my..my..my.. arm." Very robotic, even if the voice is kept full of emotion as normal.”
Another suggestion: “A funny ending to the session might be convincing the person that the only reason they've been hypnotizable all along is because they actually ARE robots, but never knew it. But if they find out they're actually robots, they will become confused and freeze up.”
Another idea, one I’d be most enthused to see: Perhaps the girl at first in fact tries to deny that she is a robot, rather than mildly accept the notion as fact immediately. For example, as a 'technician' who’s just doing a job, you might start by blandly saying on the camera her serial number, model type, and so on (like doctors record information during autopsies, for example). She might interrupt you in protest. Keeps denying until you confront her with questions about her past (which she can’t answer because she doesn’t have one — or has only a thin veneer of one - ”blank” in hypno-parlance, I guess). In other words, her whole original malfunction was that she thought that she was a real person. The dawning realization that she is not, causes her to malfunction in some of the various ways mentioned briefly above or like the very nice Alloni clips you just did. Except that she should really come across like a real girl at first. You don’t have to have a really jerky, mechanical aspect or even a monotone voice — at least not at first. For many of us, the gradual revelation of true nature is the most important turn-on. The girl may appear genuinely confused and her movement quite fluid — at least until things start to go wrong. I know: who makes up these crazy rules!?
This is all just for your information. If you think going down the whole “robot” path is a waste of time after all, or you’re not interested, that’s, of course, ok. However, if you’re curious about using any of these ideas and want to find out more first, email me back or visit
http://www.fembotcentral.com/.
And you don’t have to take my word for any of the above suggestions as to how representative of the community they are. But I’ve been in the community for years (longer than the site’s been up), and I think I have a good idea of the pulse. This has a potential to be a really nice symbiotic relationship!
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