CASE Act - The future of FembotWiki and Fembot Central

[Sthurmovik]

This is a huge overreaction. I have heard internet freedom folks cry that the sky is falling even after actual legislation was passed and the truth is that nothing changes. Copyright Trolls already have plenty of tools to make their threats even if the law is on your side. If anything all sorts of recent court cases have made the legal environment much much better.

Listen, you do whatever you need to, but don't just let them win by destroying an art archive that has been around for well over a decade. At least transfer a backup to someone who is willing to take on the burden. I'm sure there are scores of artists who have moved on or passed on. Don't destroy their legacy.

[dieur]

I respect that media wiki might not be the best option if someone were open to consider it, but are you sure you won’t allow a content transfer R-man?

I can’t blame you for not wanting to continue to host the site. I can only thank you for doing it so long. But I can’t think of any case where someone traced a liability chain back to someone who voluntarily stopped at some point in the past. Will you not reconsider?

[N6688]

Well great..............time to back everything up i guess.
I put a curse to whoever voted for article 13 (and MAYBE in the future the case act)

[Lithorien]

I'm sorry, but the content or ownership of the wiki won't be transferred in any way. I do not want a direct connection from my past hosting/uploading involvement to be around for any new site in the event that this kind of activity is made unlawful.

Unfortunate. Thanks for giving us a heads-up to run a wiki scraper on it.

[zerodin]

Shame you're letting the fear of a long shot what-if worst case scenario spook you into shutting the only site of it's kind down like that. Your server space your rules. Can't say I have much respect for you after that, but I've said I'll I'm gonna about the matter.

[Froggy99]

Tangential question...will THIS site continue to exist, at least for the foreseeable future?

[SneezerWeezer1337]

This seems to be way too quick and knee-jerk of a reaction. We are a very small community in the grand scheme of things and I doubt we will be targeted by the government if this law comes into play. If possible PLEASE reconsider shutting down the site or at least transferring ownership. This place is too good to be let go so suddenly

[JeffCapes]

Noooooooo!

[Kube²]

I came bach only to save my work on the wiki...
Wiki immediatly dies and burn....

I have an amazing sense of timing

[BA2]

Bummer

Firstly - thanks to Robotman for the Wiki, its been great and I will miss it! I don't follow US politics closely, nor copyright or tech law so I can't comment on the severity of the threat posed; if Robotman feels the need to pull out for this or any reason then I for one repect that and am grateful for the contribution he's made over the years. Thank you.

Second - the technical debate above about how to pass the baton is well beyond my understanding but I'm heartened to see responses seeking a way to preserve and build on what our communty has created. I have no nerd-value to contribute but would be prepared to contribute financially if that is needed...

Third - I will continue to write and manip (at my customary sporadic production rate). I do that for my own satisfaction but sharing here and on the Wiki is hugely rewarding as is digesting all the new material produced by others. I'm sure there are enough of us who feel broadly the same way to ensure that there is a future in some form or another...

[dale coba]

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[Barbarella]

...if the wiki is closing because of CASE...then technically the entire image section of this forum would need to close as well, to a point where no manips at all could be posted on the forum...otherwise closing the wiki would be pointless.

[DukeNukem 2417]

Two words: Derivative Works.

[dingdongdug]

Great Thanks Robotman for all your working on fembotwiki during all these time , I hope somebody will continue on another website

[FaceoffFembot]

If anyone wants to join in on a concerted effort to back up all of Fembot Wiki and devise a replacement, they are welcome to join the Fembot Labs server on Discord!

https://discord.gg/3UghYmt

Creating a Discord account is free but current Fembot Labs security settings require your account to be older than 5 minutes.

Hope to see you there!

[Muchacho]

Duuuude, someone has to do something about this. This is bad all the information that has been compiled throughout the years will be lost. How about creating a wix website? Would it be a good idea?

Anyway, the forum will still be here which keeps me calm.
Did you know that I'll be working for ludella in a future project? Those are some good news at least...

[Silkscreen]

This brings back the cozy feelings of the old days when robot wives weren't cheap and effective.

[Lithorien]

For anyone attempting to scrape the wiki, just a warning: I've had two wget instances running for 24 hours now. Not sure how far they are from completion, but it will take a very long time.

[FembotLife]

Hey so what if I dont live in the US but still want to help is that possible?

[Stephaniebot]

This brings back the cozy feelings of the old days when robot wives weren't cheap and effective.

Lol, we need all the pampering we can get, dont we Dollspace?

[Baron]

That's a fine and dandy sentiment, but I'm out. It's time for someone else to shoulder the risks and liability. What is perfectly harmless and innocuous right now can and will be made illegal and criminal with the stroke of a pen in the near future.

If you want to start a manip and art hosting website, please do.

With all due respect, I think this is fast becoming a "baby / bath water" scenario. As both a professional writer and a professional musician in my offline life, I'm pretty well hip to all things "copyright," and I truly don't see any red flags yet. For starters, the so-called "legislation" basically never "got out of Committee," ie, it never even went to the floor for debate, much less causing any sort of vote to be enacted. The notion is stillborn, in other words.

Myself, when the news first broke here, I just made like and said "Oh crap, it's another form of 'Hush Rush,' or 'NAPSTER Mk2!" How the hell would they ENFORCE it, provided they could even get such claptrap actually on the books in the first place? If the notion were even remotely possible, we wouldn't have all these "wonderful" things like Facebook, kiddie porn, GOOGLE, and "cyber-bullying" strewn all over the Interweb like we do now, would we? Hell, it would only take a sharp lawyer-type roughly two seconds to proclaim "Grandfather-clause" - and kill the entire notion of "enforcement" deader than Jimmy Hoffa!


All of that aside, there's one other thing to consider. "Copyright" only gets nasty when filthy lucre is involved. Last time I checked, neither this place, nor the Wiki has EVER shaken its' patrons down for admission. Nor do I recall ever being financially compensated for my many humble contributions to the Archives on both sites. I can't speak for everybody, but 100% of my raw material for manips was and still is FREELY available on multiple websites. What's more, I also have many clear memories of several attempts to download certain other items being calmly balked by a simple "Copyright Protected" popup. And this was in the days well before Photobucket got greedy and decided to monetize their "services."

Ergo, not only is this new "legislation" totally ridiculous, it's also totally redundant - worthwhile copyright laws are already in place {and have been for quite some time} and are being quietly enforced, if my above popup experience is any indication. Which in turn makes me absolutely CRINGE at the thought of so much wonderful content housed here and on the Wiki simply up and vanishing into the ether, all because a couple of long-eared jackasses on Capitol Hill {including Bill, of course} have nothing better to do with their time than to try and legislate some "morality" into the discussion - with the whole damned mess funded by the taxpayers' dime, natch.

Now then, it's time for the ol' Devils' Advocate scthick.

My good R-Man, I'm afraid you'll have to do one hell of a lot more than simply shuttering the Wiki for good, if ya want to really "CYA" from every angle. After you go into Witness Protection {or maybe even before}, you'll have to do something drastic, and I do mean DRASTIC {think DEFCON 1} about this pesky nuisance called the Internet Brokeback - er, ah, WAYback Machine. On more than one occasion I've traced a perfectly straight line from here all the way back to the original Gynoid Gallery launch during the summer of '97 {when I was known as 'Drumbo'}, using the IWM. If some hypothetical "Enforcer / Hitman" ever did come gunning for you here, only to find you absent, they'd still be able to nail you with a metric ton of "incriminating evidence,'' thanks to the IWM's "Party-line And Electronic Bread-crumb Trail to the Past."

Oh yeah - whilst nuking the IWM, ya might as well put your own "Gratuitous" site under the guillotine for good measure, 'cos it's also chock-full of IWM potential Dangers, AND has a couple of portals tied into FC and the Wiki to boot. Git 'er done, right? Yes, I'm 100% kidding about "Gratuitous," but there are more than few kernels of truth underpinning the whole of my diatribe here.

.And on a final note, regardless of whatever the future might bring, I want to publicly thank you 1,000,000,000,000 more times over your stalwart tenure as Fearless Leader, lo these many years at the helm. Said it before, say it again; you ROCK to da MAX, Old Boy!!

It's been a real slice grooving with you so far, Good Sir. If nothing else, I'll still positively adore the many fine friendships - including yours - I've cultivated here. By way of testimony FC and the Wik are shining beacons to everything that is right about this silly old fetish of ours, simple as that.

Which is a damned fine note to conclude on - Class dismissed!!!

{And Keep the Baby, Faith!! }

Before I forget - would it be possible to put FC and the Wik on some sort of VPN platform, and bypass the matter entirely by going dark? Methinks it might be worth looking into........

[Kube²]

i think baron have some strong arguments

[AmpFetish]

Robotman, you can do whatever you want, but I think this is unnecessary and paranoid. The internet here in the states is open and free, and it's gonna stay that way. Who is going to come after you for hosting images people upload on a site?

Do whatever you want, but know that all you're actually doing is needlessly destroying a key pillar of our community. Someone else will make a new wiki I suppose, but you're doing this all for nothing.

[Chemik]

How can we live without FembotWiki???? There must be a way out...

[dingdongdug]

Great thank's for your decision